tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2042413869472011551.post8574033123287729426..comments2023-09-17T00:52:27.888+10:00Comments on Girl With a Satchel: Cover Talk: Stars sans slapErica Bartle (nee Holburn)http://www.blogger.com/profile/03115131016810116605noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2042413869472011551.post-60810738870146339112009-04-15T08:55:00.000+10:002009-04-15T08:55:00.000+10:00All very valid points, anonymous. Thanks for addin...All very valid points, anonymous. Thanks for adding your perspective to the discussion.<br /><br />I suppose, from my point of view, some of the weekly 'stars without makeup' stories tend to be cruel (paparazzi shots taken without their consent) and terribly unflattering, essentially profiting at the stars' expense, rather than consensual and thoughtful, as we see with ELLE. I can appreciate the beauty of the ELLE shots, while I just feel sorry for most of the stars caught sans makeup who land themselves a cover shot on a gossip weekly.<br /><br />It's all about the spirit of the editorial decision and motive (celebrating makeup free feminine beauty rather than rejoicing in stars' bad luck) - though I'm well aware all magazines exist to make money.<br /><br />Cheers,<br />EricaErica Bartle (nee Holburn)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03115131016810116605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2042413869472011551.post-16155504284370375372009-04-14T19:14:00.000+10:002009-04-14T19:14:00.000+10:00I absolutely love the concept of these covers, and...I absolutely love the concept of these covers, and the idea of seeing stars without make-up in the way that French Elle has done it. But I fail to see the difference between Elle doing it, and a celebrity weekly doing it. Isn't it feeding into the readers' desire to see stars (apparently) unmasked in exactly the same way, whether it be on the cover of Elle or NW? I think the belief that it's somehow more genuine or honourable because it's on the cover of a 'fashion mag' rather than a weekly is really quite blinded, naive and unfair. That's not to say the idea doesn't have merit - it's just saying that both types of mags do this for the same reason: sales. To believe otherwise is to be fooled.<br /><br />Also, I disagree with the idea that these types of 'Stars Without Make-up' covers are around at the moment because people want a return to 'traditional values' (??) and realism during a time of financial hardship. Research simply proves this isn't true at all - all make-up companies make more (from the general public) during times of recession, as people look to (usually cheap) things to make themselves feel better. Eg make-up. (For the record, these things also include chocolate and alcohol, interms of sales volume.)<br /><br />In this light, given both points, it's hard not to take the post as yet another attack on the weeklies, in favour of fashion glossies that are in almost every way as variously good or bad as their weekly counterparts when it comes to realism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2042413869472011551.post-67578027808662254442009-04-13T22:52:00.000+10:002009-04-13T22:52:00.000+10:00Hi Erica, I joined this group http://connect2mums....Hi Erica, I joined this group http://connect2mums.ning.com/ to meet mums who "share on babies, bedroom & beyond!" Join us 4 latest info on bubs, kids, tweens & mums 2! It's fun & free! I will also send an email invite! Claire xoUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01269818352821953848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2042413869472011551.post-55332092687258545952009-04-13T22:24:00.000+10:002009-04-13T22:24:00.000+10:00I do appreciate those covers but always feel a lit...I do appreciate those covers but always feel a little ripped off when they say "without makeup" and then the woman appears to be wearing mascara, lip colour, and maybe even eyeshadow or eyeliner. Am I being too picky or should "without makeup" mean exactly that?SheilaKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2042413869472011551.post-73641554994950747132009-04-13T21:30:00.000+10:002009-04-13T21:30:00.000+10:00I was nodding in agreement this whole post. But I ...I was nodding in agreement this whole post. But I just can't get over how long it's taken any of the mainstream fashion magazines to get on to this concept. <BR/><BR/>While I'd love to have seen an Aussie title take this on, it's just going to look unoriginal. Unless the whole issue was devoted to realism. Perhaps there could be a special issue that is an example that stands outside of it's 'obligations' to it's advertisers. <BR/><BR/>At least they would be one of the first titles in a very long time that would be showing some respect to it's readers, which lets face it, without which there would be no magazine to read. Woo readers with reality and truth in an original and purposeful way while the advertisers pull the plug on the spend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2042413869472011551.post-3815766617924692492009-04-13T20:20:00.000+10:002009-04-13T20:20:00.000+10:00These covers are so chic and elegant, I love them ...These covers are so chic and elegant, I love them :)Style On Trackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01972727565571750957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2042413869472011551.post-55600558552714303362009-04-13T17:58:00.000+10:002009-04-13T17:58:00.000+10:00GIMMICK!don't even kid yourself into thinking it's...GIMMICK!<BR/>don't even kid yourself into thinking it's anything more than a ploy to sell more magazines.<BR/>Yeah, i like it, but the advertisers sure as hell wont, and you can bet your lunch money they were pre-warned that the strategy was a one off, and that future editorial content would not persuade readers to give up their lipsticks.Maxienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2042413869472011551.post-22701285269001001482009-04-13T17:04:00.000+10:002009-04-13T17:04:00.000+10:00I love these covers. Although don't forget the nat...I love these covers. Although don't forget the natural look probably took as much effort to look artfully casual - hair, eyebrows, and yes, re-touching - as the usual suspects. V cool thoTheWrongTrousersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2042413869472011551.post-46935461834558555402009-04-13T16:37:00.000+10:002009-04-13T16:37:00.000+10:00Brilliant post, Erica. Totally on the money.And hu...Brilliant post, Erica. Totally on the money.<BR/><BR/>And huge props to French ELLE. Please, please, pretty please Oz editors: take note. Would LOVE to see more of this.Rochellenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2042413869472011551.post-90421514900371603422009-04-13T16:35:00.000+10:002009-04-13T16:35:00.000+10:00I think it's a really cool idea. The covers all lo...I think it's a really cool idea. The covers all look awesome and really natural. I think aussie magazines should snap up this idea, even if it's just one magazine for one issue. I also think it's cool how they've dressed them in basic clothes that don't stand out. The whole effect would have been lost if they'd posted them without make up but in amazing clothes that caught (and kept) your attention.<BR/>I love reading the French coverlines as well. I'm planning a French exchange next year, and the language (even though I'm only learning) is just gorgeous.frangipani princesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03436351134946934242noreply@blogger.com